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Punks & Gays

The Punks often went to certain Gay clubs because they were more tolerant. Same in NYC. Mothers was a Gay restaurant, and I DJed there for a time. That was one of the first gigs for Talking Heads, and Mink De Ville.  It was the first *Gay Rock and Roll* place! Peter Crowley from Max*s was the booker. And I really noticed when I got to London to play the Roxy, that they were still suffering Glam identification! He He. But I loved it. They looked like Punks, but some of them still had their orange Bowie hairdos!  Which shaved eyebrows, that I of course taught Bowie to do!  So it was a double whammy for me!  And of course that graduated into the *Cosmetic Punk* thing. They were actually called Cosmetic Punks. The ones, both male and female, who wore heavy black lipstick and make up. O course that went on to become the *Goth* look!  And Oh Isis!!!  The London Punk Movement owed so much to the Glam movement!  Most of the earliest Punks had been Glammers!  Both movements were anti establishment, and they stressed down on being an individual and bluring the sexes. I get angry when I hear or see these so called modern day Punks. They have no idea what it was all about or was supposed to be about!  There was no homophobia in the early London Punk Movement!  That came later with all the band wagon jumpers.

In fact most of the big Punk artists of the early had Gay experiences or were Gay but just did not make a big deal out of it. The press would have latched on to that and that would have been all you heard!!  And no one went out of their way to *meet each other!*  It was just, well whatever, if I do great and if I don*t who cares. Plus Johnny Rotten had started an anti sex cult that existed within the Punk Movement. Sex was supposed to be over rated and actually got in the way. Sex was even out for awhile . And if you did have sex, you didn*t make a big deal about it! Mainstream Gays always make a big deal concerning sex. The Gay Punks did not!  It wasn*t important,  just in the way. If you had to do it, hurry up and get it over with so I can get back to writing songs and playing gigs!  OR just having a wank!  I think I may have already mentioned, that members of both the Pistols and the Clash were Gay.  One each. Same thing with the Heartbreakers.  Something funny though!  Everyone in the New York Dolls were straight!!!  He He. That is funny. David Johannsen *flirted* with bisexuality, but that was all. Some of the Cramps are Gay, I ain*t saying which ones cause it would be disrespecting to Gay People!!!!!  The Mumps were very Gay.